Why is he giving a lecture on language? What languaage has to do here? There are so many Hindi speaking states whey can't there be two telugu speaking states? What threat does that have for national integrity? Telangana is not asking for seperate country.
Then he gives a discourse on samskruti. What damage telangana people are doing to Andhra samskruti? It's otherway, you have been doing telangana samskruti for decades. You insult Telangana language, Telangana festivals and Telanagana people. It's this cultural attack on Telangana that has brought this situation today. You are responsible for it. We should give this lecture to you not you giving to Telangana people.
Reading books and referring to great people doesn't make your argument strong. You should have reason, ethics in your argument.
“””Why is he giving a lecture on language? What languaage has to do here? There are so many Hindi speaking states whey can't there be two telugu speaking states? What threat does that have for national integrity? Telangana is not asking for seperate country. “”””
The discussion is about demolition of statues of great people of Telugu Culture. What binds us is Telugu …the Lanuage… What Erranna, Jahsuva, Sri Sri…..are famous for… The language …what we should talk about if not language….
It seems JP is just giving taste of great people thoughts....Great people think about whole humanity…..They will shatter glass ceiling and they are free... They have gone beyond narrow regional, language, caste, region, ethnic in fact even national identities...That's what he is talking about..His speech is most beautiful speech I have seen.....
How can we .....Telengana people defend the demolition? I don't see any explanation what so ever can defend the demolition. Do you think SRI SRI doesn't belong to telengana culture ...VEERESHALINGAM nothing to do with telengana....if your answer is YES and if you say you will demolish all the statutes who ever you THINK not part of TELENGANA CULTURE??? I call this INSANITY, MADNESS, IGNORANCE, IRRATIONAL FUNDAMENTALISM, EXTREME OBSCURANTISM.
The discussion was not about “separate state wood for telengana people’. There is nothing wrong in having more states but we need REASON, LOGIC, FEASIBILITY and SUSTAINABILITY. To change the status quo....you need reasons...there will be no big change if you change some boundaries. I would like to remind that they are 4 kinds of people in telengana..ONE...There are some people who strongly prefer separate state with what ever beliefs they hold(like every body will get job if Telengana comes or every CHENETHA worker will be paid handsome money or all agriculture problems will be solved ….. as it is shown in JAI BHOLO TELENGANA)SECOND, ..There are few people who strongly oppose separate state...they will not openly oppose ...if they do then they will be beaten up...like in Pakistan... people will be killed if they oppose to apparent popular belief. THIRD, They don't see much change in people well being if separate state is formed or not...like ME...It's change in people's mind set, Institutions and Infrastructure that changes the fate of people not boundaries ,not new chief ministers , not increasing the number of chief ministers.... FOURTH, Majority...who don't really understand what separate state means... funny part is they are real losers and gainers in this whole exercise but nobody bothers them.
"""Then he gives a discourse on samskruti. What damage telangana people are doing to Andhra samskruti? It's otherway, you have been doing telangana samskruti for decades. You insult Telangana language, Telangana festivals and Telanagana people. It's this cultural attack on Telangana that has brought this situation today. You are responsible for it. We should give this lecture to you not you giving to Telangana people.""""
My dear Telengana Comrade….what a company does to sell a fairness cream? It will create BAD and GOOD in society…or Use existing dividing lines to define BAD and GOOD and then it will say if you use my cream then you will go from BAD to GOOD…Here GOOD is white color skin….BAD is 'not white color skin'. After creating these divisions then they say we use our fairness cream then you will become White which is desirable according to established people' mindset. These is nothing as such water tight compartments of that culture or this culture….cultures fuse…cultures assimilate ….cultures accommodate…cultures celebrate….this process is very complex…these things driven by human necessities which can not be stopped artificial boundaries….can you stop degradation of telugu by English? Can you insulate so called 'telengana culture' against westernisation…it is not possible….we Telengana people are fools….beleiving some illusions and delusions and forgot eternal truth that ….only human mind prevails nothing else….not nation… not region …not state…not religion…not caste …not ethnicity….not even languages…..My dear Friend ….let me open your eyes…TELUGU will not live long time if we continue like this…..so many languages died in the history of mankind nor does the TELUGU escape this challenge….unless we are firm like TAMILS….but we cannot blame Tamils for telugu degradation….. Who should give lecture to who?...doesn't matter.....as soon as people are ready listen any body can give lecture to anybody….? Is this telengana culture that you don't like some body to give lectures….? You dictate who should give lecture to who? Are you descended from Nazis or what …is this telengana culture…. Demolishing great people statues ….beating up who so ever opposes to our demands….burning all kinds of properties…..we are always right we don't even listen others…..we will never compromise with our desires, wishes and whims??? Is this our culture…..The telengana culture ……
"""Reading books and referring to great people doesn't make your argument strong. You should have reason, ethics in your argument."""
What makes argument strong?? If not reading books…if not referring great people…..what is reason??....if you break bonds with your past and if you become real individual 'not associated with any thing' then you will get real reason…that real reason is plenty in JP writings, speech and even in his deeds.
Ethics for argument sake can be done by anybody…even dog gives moral lectures and ethical discourses…But the practice gives those arguments real meanings…obliviously, Dogs can not practice moral and ethical life.......like many of us can not show in deeds but only in words…..
why no one died from KCR , Hariswara rao , chandra babu , Nagam , Yerraballi , Etela Rajendra , Kodandaram family ... many innocent students died ... why .... what KCR drama company did for my telengana brother and sister till date since they elected ...
Now from Uttarpradesh Ajay singh started for Separate state with the name of " Purvaanchal " why ?
today he Kick out from his Origin Samaj wadi party .... so he need one base to exist in political field and to role his political career ... he need some slogan to go near to the people .. to tempt common man and innocent students also ... if they will in emotional for that now present "Utarpradesh state " is the cause or Ajay singh is cause tell me...
My dear brother and sister , mother and father , grand mother and father from my Telengana region if we are all believe by separate state only our problem solve ... means we will divide as brother and sister from one family in democratic way as provided by our beloved country constitution and will keep / protect our culture , tradition ... to lead us we will choose best leaders .. that leader be leader to the leaders that type icon , eminent personalities we will choose to lead us .... not this opportunists ... not this dirty roughs ... we can not cross river with the support of Dog tail ... for that we need perfect boat .... so for us et our better child future we need good visionary persons not this dogs ... recall it what they did for our Telengana
There is nothing other jargon of words in your explanation. Your explanation does't explain cultural attack happened at least don't accept that it's mistake. When you disrespect TELUGU people from Telangana TELUGU doesn't die. But if telangana people disrespect TELUGU people from Andhra, TELUGU will die. What a great reasoning man to open my eyes. Watch this video to get a glimpse of what you have done to TELUGU in telangana http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxaBU3EhYm8 Very fact that you have to write so much to defend you explains that you are trying bluff.Facts are always simple.
It's just my love towards you, others in telengana and my respect towards my land made me to write many words...if you think it's bluff ..it neither hurts me nor disappoints me...because I failed many times to convince my telengana comrades in this regard. But, hopefully some were convinced...that hope made me to write many words....
You said "Facts are always simple"..I am afraid this is not true...All facts are not simple but some may be...also, all simple things may not be facts like" separate telengana is solution for all problems of telengana people".
What made you to conclude like "When you disrespect TELUGU people from Telangana TELUGU doesn't die. But if telangana people disrespect TELUGU people from Andhra, TELUGU will die"...I think there is no logic in this sentence...This is not about respect or disrespect...I just tried to give gist of culture fusion….the natural phenomenon...not orchestrated...Both Telengana and Andhra speak teleugu with little difference...may be 10% difference...optimum guess...What I said if we fight amongst us for this 10% differences...forgetting that we have 90% in common ....then Telugu will die soon....like Pali and Sankrit...one of the reasons for decline of Buddhism is fighting for small differences...uncompromising and intolerant attitudes of different sects of Buddhism...personally I am not that interested in saving telugu from extinction….because I feel it's more important to save human race from extinction..
I have seen Mr.Deshpathi Sreenivas Vedio..It's quite informative....what he said may be true...but his logic will not prove organized telengana cultural demolition scientifically. If something as such happened it's just because of human behavioural problems….. like selfishness, ignorance, jealousy....it's because of some society anomalies…..like .irrational beliefs, mob psychology etc...How can it be stopped if we create separate state?? how can you stop westernization of Indian culture?? which country boundaries cannot stop how can you stop with regional boundaries....??? In fact...Nalgonda and Khammam telugu is not entirely similar to warnagal...How do you to solve these problems....
Coming to statues which Mr. Srinivas talked about in video....It seem the demolition is not accidental….seems it was pre-planned...this is just digging our own graves......he is saying number of statues "who born in telengana" were less on tank bund...then I argue...at least 1 or 2 statues from my district should be there and also at least one should be there from my cast...and Muslims demand statues according to their population....where will it end ??…are we going to demand NOBLE PRIZES according to our population???...No body says the statues whose were not there on tank bund can not be considered as great people…..It’s just based on some criteria…which may not be as accurate as mathamatics….. But certainly not based on …..cast ...religion...region......taking birth on some place is an accident...the place will not make man great…..his deeds and words are....
chaala Baaga chepparu sir
ReplyDeleteWhy is he giving a lecture on language? What languaage has to do here? There are so many Hindi speaking states whey can't there be two telugu speaking states? What threat does that have for national integrity? Telangana is not asking for seperate country.
ReplyDeleteThen he gives a discourse on samskruti. What damage telangana people are doing to Andhra samskruti? It's otherway, you have been doing telangana samskruti for decades. You insult Telangana language, Telangana festivals and Telanagana people. It's this cultural attack on Telangana that has brought this situation today. You are responsible for it. We should give this lecture to you not you giving to Telangana people.
Reading books and referring to great people doesn't make your argument strong. You should have reason, ethics in your argument.
Hello anonymous friend,March 12 7:57...
ReplyDelete“””Why is he giving a lecture on language? What languaage has to do here? There are so many Hindi speaking states whey can't there be two telugu speaking states? What threat does that have for national integrity? Telangana is not asking for seperate country. “”””
The discussion is about demolition of statues of great people of Telugu Culture.
What binds us is Telugu …the Lanuage… What Erranna, Jahsuva, Sri Sri…..are famous for… The language …what we should talk about if not language….
It seems JP is just giving taste of great people thoughts....Great people think about whole humanity…..They will shatter glass ceiling and they are free... They have gone beyond narrow regional, language, caste, region, ethnic in fact even national identities...That's what he is talking about..His speech is most beautiful speech I have seen.....
How can we .....Telengana people defend the demolition? I don't see any explanation what so ever can defend the demolition. Do you think SRI SRI doesn't belong to telengana culture ...VEERESHALINGAM nothing to do with telengana....if your answer is YES and if you say you will demolish all the statutes who ever you THINK not part of TELENGANA CULTURE??? I call this INSANITY, MADNESS, IGNORANCE, IRRATIONAL FUNDAMENTALISM, EXTREME OBSCURANTISM.
The discussion was not about “separate state wood for telengana people’. There is nothing wrong in having more states but we need REASON, LOGIC, FEASIBILITY and SUSTAINABILITY. To change the status quo....you need reasons...there will be no big change if you change some boundaries. I would like to remind that they are 4 kinds of people in telengana..ONE...There are some people who strongly prefer separate state with what ever beliefs they hold(like every body will get job if Telengana comes or every CHENETHA worker will be paid handsome money or all agriculture problems will be solved ….. as it is shown in JAI BHOLO TELENGANA)SECOND, ..There are few people who strongly oppose separate state...they will not openly oppose ...if they do then they will be beaten up...like in Pakistan... people will be killed if they oppose to apparent popular belief. THIRD, They don't see much change in people well being if separate state is formed or not...like ME...It's change in people's mind set, Institutions and Infrastructure that changes the fate of people not boundaries ,not new chief ministers , not increasing the number of chief ministers.... FOURTH, Majority...who don't really understand what separate state means... funny part is they are real losers and gainers in this whole exercise but nobody bothers them.
Hello anonymous friend,March 12 7:57...
ReplyDelete"""Then he gives a discourse on samskruti. What damage telangana people are doing to Andhra samskruti? It's otherway, you have been doing telangana samskruti for decades. You insult Telangana language, Telangana festivals and Telanagana people. It's this cultural attack on Telangana that has brought this situation today. You are responsible for it. We should give this lecture to you not you giving to Telangana people.""""
My dear Telengana Comrade….what a company does to sell a fairness cream? It will create BAD and GOOD in society…or Use existing dividing lines to define BAD and GOOD and then it will say if you use my cream then you will go from BAD to GOOD…Here GOOD is white color skin….BAD is 'not white color skin'. After creating these divisions then they say we use our fairness cream then you will become White which is desirable according to established people' mindset.
These is nothing as such water tight compartments of that culture or this culture….cultures fuse…cultures assimilate ….cultures accommodate…cultures celebrate….this process is very complex…these things driven by human necessities which can not be stopped artificial boundaries….can you stop degradation of telugu by English? Can you insulate so called 'telengana culture' against westernisation…it is not possible….we Telengana people are fools….beleiving some illusions and delusions and forgot eternal truth that ….only human mind prevails nothing else….not nation… not region …not state…not religion…not caste …not ethnicity….not even languages…..My dear Friend ….let me open your eyes…TELUGU will not live long time if we continue like this…..so many languages died in the history of mankind nor does the TELUGU escape this challenge….unless we are firm like TAMILS….but we cannot blame Tamils for telugu degradation…..
Who should give lecture to who?...doesn't matter.....as soon as people are ready listen any body can give lecture to anybody….? Is this telengana culture that you don't like some body to give lectures….? You dictate who should give lecture to who? Are you descended from Nazis or what …is this telengana culture…. Demolishing great people statues ….beating up who so ever opposes to our demands….burning all kinds of properties…..we are always right we don't even listen others…..we will never compromise with our desires, wishes and whims??? Is this our culture…..The telengana culture ……
Hello anonymous friend,March 12 7:57...
ReplyDelete"""Reading books and referring to great people doesn't make your argument strong. You should have reason, ethics in your argument."""
What makes argument strong?? If not reading books…if not referring great people…..what is reason??....if you break bonds with your past and if you become real individual 'not associated with any thing' then you will get real reason…that real reason is plenty in JP writings, speech and even in his deeds.
Ethics for argument sake can be done by anybody…even dog gives moral lectures and ethical discourses…But the practice gives those arguments real meanings…obliviously, Dogs can not practice moral and ethical life.......like many of us can not show in deeds but only in words…..
hi kiran kumar,
ReplyDeleteyour explanation was excellent
thankyou
why no one died from KCR , Hariswara rao , chandra babu , Nagam , Yerraballi , Etela Rajendra , Kodandaram family ... many innocent students died ... why .... what KCR drama company did for my telengana brother and sister till date since they elected ...
ReplyDeleteNow from Uttarpradesh Ajay singh started for Separate state with the name of " Purvaanchal " why ?
today he Kick out from his Origin Samaj wadi party .... so he need one base to exist in political field and to role his political career ... he need some slogan to go near to the people .. to tempt common man and innocent students also ... if they will in emotional for that now present "Utarpradesh state " is the cause or Ajay singh is cause tell me...
My dear brother and sister , mother and father , grand mother and father from my Telengana region if we are all believe by separate state only our problem solve ... means we will divide as brother and sister from one family in democratic way as provided by our beloved country constitution and will keep / protect our culture , tradition ... to lead us we will choose best leaders .. that leader be leader to the leaders that type icon , eminent personalities we will choose to lead us .... not this opportunists ... not this dirty roughs ... we can not cross river with the support of Dog tail ... for that we need perfect boat .... so for us et our better child future we need good visionary persons not this dogs ... recall it what they did for our Telengana
There is nothing other jargon of words in your explanation. Your explanation does't explain cultural attack happened at least don't accept that it's mistake. When you disrespect TELUGU people from Telangana TELUGU doesn't die. But if telangana people disrespect TELUGU people from Andhra, TELUGU will die. What a great reasoning man to open my eyes. Watch this video to get a glimpse of what you have done to TELUGU in telangana http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxaBU3EhYm8
ReplyDeleteVery fact that you have to write so much to defend you explains that you are trying bluff.Facts are always simple.
It's very good speech
ReplyDeleteHi……Anonymous,March 13, 2011 7:43 AM
ReplyDeleteIt's just my love towards you, others in telengana and my respect towards my land made me to write many words...if you think it's bluff ..it neither hurts me nor disappoints me...because I failed many times to convince my telengana comrades in this regard. But, hopefully some were convinced...that hope made me to write many words....
Hi……Anonymous,March 13, 2011 7:43 AM
ReplyDeleteYou said "Facts are always simple"..I am afraid this is not true...All facts are not simple but some may be...also, all simple things may not be facts like" separate telengana is solution for all problems of telengana people".
Hi……Anonymous,March 13, 2011 7:43 AM
ReplyDeleteWhat made you to conclude like "When you disrespect TELUGU people from Telangana TELUGU doesn't die. But if telangana people disrespect TELUGU people from Andhra, TELUGU will die"...I think there is no logic in this sentence...This is not about respect or disrespect...I just tried to give gist of culture fusion….the natural phenomenon...not orchestrated...Both Telengana and Andhra speak teleugu with little difference...may be 10% difference...optimum guess...What I said if we fight amongst us for this 10% differences...forgetting that we have 90% in common ....then Telugu will die soon....like Pali and Sankrit...one of the reasons for decline of Buddhism is fighting for small differences...uncompromising and intolerant attitudes of different sects of Buddhism...personally I am not that interested in saving telugu from extinction….because I feel it's more important to save human race from extinction..
Hi……Anonymous,March 13, 2011 7:43 AM
ReplyDeleteI have seen Mr.Deshpathi Sreenivas Vedio..It's quite informative....what he said may be true...but his logic will not prove organized telengana cultural demolition scientifically. If something as such happened it's just because of human behavioural problems….. like selfishness, ignorance, jealousy....it's because of some society anomalies…..like .irrational beliefs, mob psychology etc...How can it be stopped if we create separate state?? how can you stop westernization of Indian culture?? which country boundaries cannot stop how can you stop with regional boundaries....??? In fact...Nalgonda and Khammam telugu is not entirely similar to warnagal...How do you to solve these problems....
Hi……Anonymous,March 13, 2011 7:43 AM
ReplyDeleteComing to statues which Mr. Srinivas talked about in video....It seem the demolition is not accidental….seems it was pre-planned...this is just digging our own graves......he is saying number of statues "who born in telengana" were less on tank bund...then I argue...at least 1 or 2 statues from my district should be there and also at least one should be there from my cast...and Muslims demand statues according to their population....where will it end ??…are we going to demand NOBLE PRIZES according to our population???...No body says the statues whose were not there on tank bund can not be considered as great people…..It’s just based on some criteria…which may not be as accurate as mathamatics….. But certainly not based on …..cast ...religion...region......taking birth on some place is an accident...the place will not make man great…..his deeds and words are....
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